Нет, я не говорю, что есть ощущения (смесь) без Ведана. У меня никогда не было опыта, который не Ведана. Я говорю, что телесные ощущения относятся к категории Рупа (воздух, земля, вода, огонь ...) плюс, рядом с этим также возникает Ведана. В принципе каждый мирской опыт состоит из 5 категорий. Но свербит в интернет. это не неприятное ощущение. Это в основном воздушной стихии (плюс другие Рупа). Для кого-то это приходит с неприятным чувством, для других приятное ощущение. Некоторые могут даже не признать его (Санна), другим сразу. Не все реагируют (ищите). и так далее. :) Обратите внимание, что делать это на бумаге-это проворный ошибка, в практике можно ближе к точным. Теперь Будда дал правильный ответ: дхарм, студент делает это постоянно ссылаемся на ответ, чтобы проверить, как он собирается. @matthewmartin, любой вид будет делать. :-) Когда ты написал, "это только Мара, которая верит, возникает "бытие" от родов", который Сутта[с] Вы имеете в виду?

Я обычно довольно поднаторели в поиске ядра сострадания, но это не значит, что я всегда был так хорошо оснащен. Это борьба для многих, как меня. Может быть, вы окажетесь в том же положении.

У меня был долгий, протяжный ответ, и он звучит все бла-бла-бла. Я знаю, что достигнув этой точки, когда вы просто не можете проявить каплю сочувствия к кому-то. Когда там просто ничего нет за пределами моего маленького мира. Это обычно происходит, когда я разработал некий первоначальный презрение.

Я конвертировать, что презрение к котятам.

Ок, хорошо. щенка. Кто может устоять перед щенком? Или даже просто тот, кто является объектом моего презрения, как маленький ребенок ... и что должно случиться с ними, чтобы сделать их чувствовать себя таким образом. Чего они боятся и кто не пришел на их стороне? Потому что это все сводится к доверию.

В любом случае, это обычно помогает мне резать какое-то сострадание. Или, по крайней мере, заставляет меня думать, что я не сразу их увольнять.

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